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Did PG jump the shark with "Microsoft is dead"?

Is Silverlight "Web 2.0" enough for PG?
I jumped da Shark
Thursday, May 03, 2007
 
 
He's a rich nerd
thanks to TV Guide Jon Heine's now a frickin millionaire
He sold Jumped the Shark and you know what's funny?
The great big dork now has f@#k you money
he's a rich nerd
he's a rich nerd
yeah.. he's a rich nerd
Sassy Send private email
Thursday, May 03, 2007
 
 
>Is Silverlight "Web 2.0" enough for PG?

Silverlight is Web 0.9 -- ActiveX.
DF
Thursday, May 03, 2007
 
 
I note that Graham's last two posts have been very interesting and much less of trolling for 23 year olds who are ready to work 120 hours a week for three years in return for PG giving them $25,000.
dot for this one
Thursday, May 03, 2007
 
 
Silverlight is Web 3.0

It makes Ajax obselete.

Thursday, May 03, 2007
 
 
People who think Silverlight is going to replace Ajax have no clue and obviously don't develop large consumer web sites. Silverlight is nice but there are significant shortcomings, ie

1. Requires large plugin
2. Doesn't work on many platforms
3. Slow over dial-up
4. Can't be indexed well by Google.
Craig Send private email
Thursday, May 03, 2007
 
 
1. Requires large plugin

True

2. Doesn't work on many platforms

This is typically not important. As the platform is 90%+ Windows. In the Corporate Environment (Where the big money is at), it is 99%+.

3. Slow over dial-up

True, who still uses dial-up?

4. Can't be indexed well by Google.

Neither does a fully Ajax app...

Thursday, May 03, 2007
 
 
>> 1. Requires large plugin

Isn't the plug-in like 4 MB?  That's large?  It's funny, the other day I downloaded the full 20+ MB .NET 2.0 runtime installer over my cable modem connection and it took 30 seconds.  4 MB is nothing.  4 MB is about the size of the average MP3 song and that obviously hasn't prevented anyone from downloading MP3s. 

>> 2. Doesn't work on many platforms

It works on Windows, Macs, IE, Firefox, and Safari.  That covers what, over 99% of the world? 

>> 3. Slow over dial-up

I'm not sure what would make you think it's slow over dial-up but since no one uses dial-up anymore, that's really not a problem.

>> 4. Can't be indexed well by Google.

Neither can Flash or AJAX apps.
SomeBody Send private email
Thursday, May 03, 2007
 
 
WPF actually will "install" on your PC. so Once you visited a website with WPF content, it cached until the new version.

Not too sure about Silverlight, but I would assume it to also be the case.

Thursday, May 03, 2007
 
 
Short answer: No he didn't.

Anyone who remembers the day when websites had preferred browser icons will never go back to that. If it's a plug-in it means we are tying ourselves at the hip to Microsoft. The last time MS had control of the browser we all suffered through five years of "innovation". Monopolies don't innovate. Their number one priority is to control the market to protect their position. Any management at MS will be shown the door by the stock holders the moment any technical innovation starts hitting the bottom line negatively.
Phil C Send private email
Friday, May 04, 2007
 
 
"Monopolies don't innovate"

Kinda ironic when every web innovation in the last 5 years has been based on a Microsoft innovation.

Friday, May 04, 2007
 
 
>True, who still uses dial-up?


Are you serious?

Something like 40% of users are still on dialup.
dot for this one
Friday, May 04, 2007
 
 
>Kinda ironic when every web innovation in the last 5 years has been based on a Microsoft innovation.

A list of these innovations is requested.
dot for this one
Friday, May 04, 2007
 
 
"A list of these innovations is requested."

XMLHttpRequest
.
Saturday, May 05, 2007
 
 
> XMLHttpRequest

More like nine years ago and then they tried to kill it along with DHTML because it became a threat to the desktop.

Did you happen to notice the release dates for IE 6 and IE7?
Phil C Send private email
Saturday, May 05, 2007
 
 
IE7 was recently released.

Sunday, May 06, 2007
 
 
> IE7 was recently released.

Only after Firefox threatened the IE monopoly and more then 5 years after IE6. Even with all of that lead time it could hardly be called innovative.
Phil C Send private email
Monday, May 07, 2007
 
 

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