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Bet on Google Groups UI to double or lose a search Box

Hy all,

I use Google Groups always and I loved the first UI,
the one that does not exist anymore, anywhere:
it was simple and easy to use.

The Beta is very unfriendly. I have written to the
support to suggest some improving but I got no response:
I think they have some problem reading all the mail
they receive …

When you open the Homepage You get a search box.
Only 1 and that’s ok, when you get the results
You get them in the same page and that’s ok.
But if you click on a link in the results you can
double or lose all the search box, and this is not
just gambling :-D

If you click on blu link (the topic) you lose the
search Box If you click on green link (the group)
you win an extra search Box.

Ok I’m joking a little, but I’m so use to open links in
new window that I get lost if I cant copy and paste in the
same page some text to refine my search. On the other
and, 2 box are to much.

Another thing I don’t understand is the 2 different type
of results navigation:
In the Home Page you get links to 10 pages 12345…
in the group page you got just “last & previous” and you
get lost very quick if You start going previous …

Can you explain me why Google give so many different UI?
Why they don’t let the final user set the preferences for
the UI?

I must say that they improved the beta when they let
set tree view on/off and "Fix char" on/off.
In a matter of fact they backed up the original version
because the first beta version was without tree view and
Fix char.

Another suggestion I give to Google is to do some survey
with Closed answer to get the to do list to improve their product, It takes less reading numbers than mails, and
they can get thousands of answer in few hours.

But most of all I can’t believe that improving a ** WEB **
UI takes so much time.
Is this a good design of Software? or am I a bad end user?
Thank you and GL (Good Luck)
Lorenzo Poerio Send private email
Monday, January 30, 2006
> Is this a good design of Software? or am I a bad end user?

It's horrible. The orignial simplicity was made into something without a cohesive purpose. I reately use it anymore.
son of parnas
Monday, January 30, 2006
I loved the old one too! Was it because I got so used to it, that I find it hard to adjust to the new kiddish interface? Maybe... but the lesson learnt here is that simplicity = usability.
Monday, January 30, 2006
The biggest problem with Google Groups is that it encourages antisocial behavior. For instance, by not providing a quoting facility it encourages users to post replies without providing any context.
Monday, January 30, 2006

I think it's the absolute opposite.  This forum doesn't support quoting either, and it makes the posts so much more legible.  We don't have to sift through
>> lines
>>> of
> this
>>>>> shit.

If you want to quote something, cut and paste it.  Otherwise, it probably wasn't that important and you don't need to be adding to the noise.
Ryan Phelps Send private email
Monday, January 30, 2006
Ryan, the difference between a web forum and Usenet is that on a web forum, you can safely assume that someone reading your post can also read the post that you're replying to. For various reasons, that assumption doesn't hold true on Usenet. In that environment, appropriate quoting is good manners because it allows everyone to see what one is talking about.

Add to that the fact that many Google Groups users are new to Usenet, often don't realize that they're posting to Usenet, and may not have ever heard of Usenet, and you have a problem. Under those conditions, software which encourages behavior contrary to community norms will cause problems for its users and for others in the community.
Monday, January 30, 2006
Middle click whichever link if you're using Firefox and it will open a new tab for the target and keep your existing page.
Simon Lucy Send private email
Tuesday, January 31, 2006

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