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Doug Nebeker ("Doug")
We've discussed similar things in the past but I thought I'd let everyone know about an murky practice I'm seeing some download sites sink to now.
Essentially they're advertising on adwords using my product name as a keyword. They then offer a "free download" and wrap it in an installer containing crap such as profit generating tool bars etc.
I thought it worth mentioning as I think a lot of them are in violation of the new T&C's Andy pointed out recently. I'm going to try complaining to Google & see what happens.
Wondering if many other people are seeing this for their products? After all the download sites have all the information needed to do this on mass.
Monday, April 22, 2013
This has been going on for quite a while. It's nasty because they are potentially ruining our reputation for a few pennies. And some of these toolbars are all but impossible to fully uninstall (e.g. Babylon). softonic are one of the worst offenders. I told them to stop doing for PerfectTablePlan and they did. I haven't checked if they since restarted.
-change your EULA/terms to prohibit modifying your installer
-email them and ask them to stop, telling them it is a violation of your EULA/copyright
-threaten to complain to Google (if they use adwords) or their ISP
A DCMA takedown notice might also work.
Monday, April 22, 2013
> Do they have your download file on their servers
I'm not 100% sure, they give the user an installer which does all the toolbar stuff then starts my installer.
> Any advertising is good advertising
I might agree in some circumstances but not when the user is specifically searching for my product name - then it's just a distraction.
Saturday, April 27, 2013
Sorry, no intention to subvert your meaning, just a dodgy copy / paste.
Sunday, April 28, 2013
Bill, that's exactly what I had in my EULA for my apps. Specifically:
"You understand that the Product should only be downloaded from mysite.com and that if You obtained it from any other source, then You use it at Your own risk and You agree not to hold the Author or mysite.com liable in any way for using the Product from that source."
I'd be more likely to word it so that packaging it is breaking the eula, so I can then threaten the shady download sites who do this.
I suspect any warning to end users will be of limited success. Those who know better won't fall for this scam, those to do... will.
To be honest I suspect most of my users are more savvy than this, they're B2B and usually web designers / sys-admins etc. so are aware of this kind of stuff. It's more the fact that these guys are willing to sully my good name (and that of other software) to make a few cents that bothers me. Not very pragmatic I know...
Wednesday, May 01, 2013
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